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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.12 21:00:00 -
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Okay, to the people who seem to need reading lessons:
Deep safe: Anything that is more than 10 AU farther away from the sun than the farthest celestial is.
A demonstration: Planet Whatever XIV is the farthest planet in System Whatever, and is 145 AU from the sun. Your safespot in Whatever is 154 AU from the sun, and 40 AU from XIV. As your safespot is less than (145 + 10) = 155 AU away from the sun, it is a valid safespot. Your Deep safespot in Whatever is 600 AU deep. As 600 is over (145 + 10) = 155 AU away from the sun, it is no longer a valid safespot, and unreachable.
HTH. HAND. KTHXBYE.
To CCP:
Will the current system loading problems that make deep safespots so popular for large fleets be fixed? Because this seems somewhat unfair otherwise. - Paknac Queltel
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.12 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Paknac Queltel on 12/04/2010 21:12:20 Edited by: Paknac Queltel on 12/04/2010 21:11:23 Edited by: Paknac Queltel on 12/04/2010 21:10:40
Originally by: XoPhyte Oh, I forgot about the loads of systems containing planets that are 145au away from the sun. Thanks Einstein.
Guess those mid safes on the way to that planet wont work anymore either.
145 AU is extreme, yes. It's also hypothetical.
Yes, your mid safes to that hypothetical planet will work. If they're between celestials, they can't possibly be farther from the sun that the celestials they're between. Which is what my post was explaining.
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Originally by: XoPhyte Additionally you will still be <=10 au from the closest celestial object. How does that make it a deep safe? (unless you believe people only warp to the Sun to use the scanner/probes?)
It's quite possible to be more than 16 AU away from anything in the system, and be closer to the sun than the farthest celestial.
Edited for spelling - Paknac Queltel
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Emo TJ Interesting that this is happening now.
The Northern Coalition will be affected the most. We have spent hard earned time to make these and we will be the ones who are initially affected. Great timing CCP, great timing.
When do we get to have devs tucked away in our back pocket!
Interesting that devs are implementing a change in an expension, no?
Keep that tinfoil hat fitted snugly or it won't work. - Paknac Queltel
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.12 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Wirrtuell Whats with this hypothetical Situation: Next Gate is 100 AU away, i drain my cap and fly 50 AU into Deepspace, between the Gates or whatever. Devblog says: òYou will no longer be able to issue a "warp to" command to any location outside this range No "Warp to..:" from Combat Scan Probes to catch me up in 50-AU-Deepsave ? :)
I draw a little diagram which I think might be what the devs had in mind.
Linky
This!!!!
Nice diagram, Mashie. I was this close to drawing it in Paint. - Paknac Queltel
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.15 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: War Kitten I realize this post will probably be lost in the shuffle, but what the heck...
Wouldn't it be cool if this was the precursor to user-creatable bookmarks that are stored on the local client instead of the server?
Talk about reducing lag and database hits... move the bookmarks to the client and remove the need to secure them by letting anyone make a bookmark anywhere in a system, whether in game or through a user-made editor.
The only thing they'd need to do is impose a reasonable limit to the distance from the sun in each system to prevent ridiculous distances... say 10au out from the furthest celestial?
(Although I'd pick a fixed number like 150au and call it a day, making the tiny solar systems suddenly MORE desirable for hiding things, and write it up as "the ships computer can only lock on to things 150au from the sun because it was designed by Minmatar and they can't count higher than that" or something.)
This sounds very interesting indeed. Doesn't sound likely, though, as it would vastly reduce the amount of time necessary to set up some good bookmarks. It would be pretty simple to do some magic with the datadump to get good bookmarks for the entire world.
I know I would like to have good autogenerated undock BMs, gatescan BMs, off-dscan BMs, and I'm quite willing to spend the couple of hours necessary to write something for that. - Paknac Queltel
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